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please help me answer these scenario
1) if this guy start with 1btc and do exchanges and made a profit of 2btc.. total up to 3btc, say he delete the exchange he use (binance) to hide the history of his exchange because he doesn't want to pay tax. Can the IRS find out his exchange report ?
2) if this guy has 3btc and he let someone use his account in a non-tax crypto country to withdraw money and let them send him the money using paypal or western union. What can the IRS do in this situation, can the IRS find out and will he be in trouble?
Only took me a week to get through this video. Gonna put it in a folder in Gmail and see where I am next year. I doubt it, but hopefully, the IRS will get its head out of its ass and develop a simpler solution for Cryptos.
I have worked with numerous tax attorneys and "like kind exchange" positions are strategies that they have taken with success in actual cases. However, in the future, they are not confident that it will continue to have that same success.
Thanks for this. If you have a big tax bill, look into approved 501(c)(3) organizations and think we can donate 50% of the taxes due to these organizations. I'd rather give 50% of the money to an approved homeless shelter then 100% to the government. Check with your tax agent, didn't sound like donations to 501(c)(3) was covered in this video.
Say that you buy and hold crypto. Do you have to pay property tax on it for the year or no? I read somewhere that you would still have to pay property tax (based on your state, like 1.5% etc.) on crypto you held, even if you never sold it that year. And then once you sell it you count it as income if it's less than 12 months, and count it as capital gain if it's 12 months or longer. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe it was a bill that wasn't passed yet. I'll have to search for it to see if I can find the source again.
Fantastic video. For those of us who are familiar with entities either from small businesses we own or real estate investments we have, I also gained much knowledge here. For the average crypto investor, I can imagine this must be mind boggling but I think strategies briefly mentioned here are what allow the wealthy to legally shelter their money and continue to grow it. We just don't want taxes to bite us in the a$$ down the road. Thank you guys!
Why haven't you guys mention how the hell would the IRS figure your trading when its anonymously on yobit, Binance, etc? With a VPN too... I don't understand. By Theory ones computer IP can be used by hundreds of family members and friends. How can they prove you were to the one trading. How can they prove that wallet is own buy you? Just doesn't make sense. For God sake there such thing as burner phones. Don't you think people will trade over public wifi in libraries/restaurants/etc? Honestly if your a whale and can make thousands of dollars a trade. How will the govt/IRS/FINCEN/Etc even know?
Taxation is theft, pure and simple!!! I ain't cool with paying shit to these extortionists!!! I'm sick of it all!!! Taking my money, they did nothing to earn, to pay for their Zionist wars!!! They can kiss my ass!!!
2nd plank of The Communist Manifesto:
A heavy progressive or graduated incometax. (Corporate Tax Act of 1909. The 16th Amendment, allegedly ratified in 1913. The Revenue Act of 1913, section 2, Income Tax. These laws have been purposely misapplied against American citizens to this day.)
First of all, soory for my english, im from CROCOP Country :: -). Aren`t their States like Nevada with a 1% tax..
Anyway you shod move your ass from the USA , becouse you are shourtly be burnd be the rest of the wourld :-(
"Unless you renounce your USSA citizenship, you are still liable for income tax..." Sorry, it's not that easy! "They" have to be willing to accept your renouncement!!! Otherwise, it costs about $250K to be released from you ownership!!! Yes, we're slaves, problem is, most people are to happy to be one!!
Can I get your guest to help me do taxes personally? Cause I have like a million dollars, I don't what the hell to do really. Last year I did a crap ton of Etherdelta trades, ico's, throwing money to people as help, got random btc lost, bought coins that went to zero, you freaking name it. I don't even know where to begin with this ultra nightmare.
FUCK THE IRS AND ITS MAFIA TACTICS. How in this modern world does a government entity exist that will lock you in a human sized cage by brute force for not giving them money YOU made. I hope every employee dies a horrible death.
Crypto Tax Acadamy Theoretically, miners cannot get taxed if they never declare it. Why would people with small mining machines at home even declare such a thing.
I'm hoping a crypto Haven Country has someone release a complete decentralized Anonymous trading exchange. I think it's really ridiculous that the government wants their hand in something that was solely created so the government cannot have their hand in it. In addition, the crypto Community needs to Rally for lower taxes. This industry is different and it's not the same to other Investments. The USA will loose out in millions where crypto investors will take their earnings to 2nd/3rd world nations who will grant the benefits. For God sake, people can even purchase citizenship for some nations.
P.S. I aggree with your rant crypto crow
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So if I pay a 100 bucks and The ICO goes up say to 30 bucks a token by the end of the year. I have to pay tax on that rise or only if I sell it within the year time frame? Thanks for the reply
11:10 ← Info on "New" Crypto law
14:50 ← How personal crypto trading is treated by IRS
25:30 ← Info on having bot trading as a business
28:30 ← Info on treating your business as an S-Corp
36:59 ← Info on mining
44:56 ← Info on Self-directed IRA
50:00 ← How do I know Mr. Tax Expert is working for me and not himself?
55:00 ← Info on taking a catastrophic loss in Coin/ICO's being unavailable to Americans
1:05:00 ← Is there an easy solution for your average Joe swing/bot trader, ICO buyer?
I thought this might be helpful. Enjoy!
Thank you for the resources and this video, they have been INCREDIBLY helpful. I was about to jump in not really thinking about how taxes would work out exactly. Defintely going to get in with Cointracker and possibly this Scott fellow's firm.
The very fact that the government are more than happy to take tax off you that you DON'T have to pay without telling you or providing a system that helps make life easier for you to automate the payment via some platform goes to show that THEY KNOW most people are paying more than they have to aside from the huge multi-national coperations who pay ZERO
The tax whores would make far more money in collecting tax if they allowed the traders a system where it would make it simple to pay tax rather than having to hire a fleet of people to update millions of transactions. Fucking idiots. All this means is that people will either not pay or mostly not actually do it because its too complicated. The government is full of fucking morons who are incompetent in that they don't realise they are hamring their econamy when all they have to do is get their shit together.
I use cointracking. It is the best. Gets all the info and even has a diary about each and every trade. Been using it for more than a month and love it. You just have to remember to download your history at each of the exchanges you trade. Those get fed into the cointracking app. My question is what about Personal Liabilities. With an LLC there is a max amount in case of Personal Liabilities. But I don't think that is the case with an S-corp their income can be affected. Am I correct about that? Binance allows institutional as do coinbase. What about opening an account in your companies name at the exchange? Will that make reporting easier as long as you don't comingle. I do like the idea about getting paid in BTC.
Before I respond to your request to me concerning "plenty of regs regarding sale and disposal of capital assets and property", I have a very important question for you. You said that you "have been involved in the tax industry for 13 years". But you also said that you are "neither a CPA nor an accountant". Then what makes you, as the title of this YouTube video promulgates, a "Crypto Tax Expert"? Are you a tax attorney? Are you just a business owner with accounts in your employ? What are your credentials as a "Tax Expert"?
I can tell by your response that whether you are not a CPA or just a tax accountant, you have no knowledge of the Internal Revenue laws or regulations as applicable to cryptocurrency. You have not cited one law or regulation yet in answer to my direct questions. You seem to be just a number cruncher just like everyone else at the IRS. And your conclusions seem to be baseless if you are basing them "on their guidance" [possibly IRS Notice 2014-21] as you so noted in your response. That is just a notice and is merely stating their position as I was told by one of those attorneys at the IRS listed at the bottom of that "guidance" when I spoke with him in a telephone conversation several weeks ago.
And as far as the Coinbase case, that was just a Phising expedition by the IRS. Since Coinbase is a federally created corporation by getting a EIN from the IRS, the IRS does have the authority to do what they did. But since it is tax time, as it is termed, the IRS always does things like that around this time to scare the $#!+ out of everyone using cryptos to get them to go into fear mode to do what they assume is law... when it really isn't. All that other stuff you stated at the end of your response is nothing more than additional scare tactics, because most people seem to be like you and have never actually read the Internal Revenue Code or Code of Federal Regulations to know what actually applies and what does not.
Thank you for the response. But as an alleged "Tax Expert" attempting to drum up business here, your "conclusion" seems to be completely inaccurate and based on conjecture and not facts of law and regulation. Governments are bound by Congressionally enacted laws and implementing regulation, not conjecture and opinions in "guidance" documents and notices. You are using the terms "property" and "currency" loosey goosey. But upon my request of you as an alleged "Tax Expert", you have given me no links to actual cites of laws and regulations enacted by Congress or promulgated in the Federal Register by the IRS as required by law.
And yes, the IRS did issue a "guidance in 2014" as you so noted. It is entitled "IRS Notice 2014-21" if that is what you are referring to in your response but possibly didn't know. However, that is not either law or regulation applicable to anyone but a few in public office as noted in that notice. And in that notice by the IRS, it had no reference to cryptocurrency being "considered intangible property". Where did you read that? Not in that notice. That term "property" was defined by Congress in the Internal Revenue Code in only 2 places. And neither had anything to do with cryptos. That notice stated that "virtual currency" was to be "treated as property", big difference in terminology. I can treat someone like an idiot, but it doesn't really mean that they are one. The IRS can't make up their own rules. It must come from Congress.
Also, I have no statute or regulatory reference to what you refer to as "currency traders" relating to cryptos. Where can I read the U.S. Congressionally legislated definition of that term as well? Your response was so generalized that I can only accept it as your opinion and not fact, since you didn't include any. "Tax Expert"? Hmmm. You did not include any links to any cites for anything in your response. Maybe you are not really a "Tax Expert" knowledgeable enough in tax law who can provide facts for verification and validation of what you say, just a businessman looking to drum up some tax business here. Nothing wrong with that.
By whose rules did you come up with that response about "currency" & "property"? As everyone should know, all governments are bound by rules and regulations. Can you tell me where you read the law and/or regulation that defines the term "property" as you have explained here that relates to cryptocurrency as we know today like BTC, ETH, etc.?
Also, what law and/or regulation promulgated by the U.S. Government states that anyone is required to "report" when "you buy and sell currency"? And it seems as though you are contradicting your own responses. You stated that crypto is "not currency". Then you state that it is required to "report" crypto "when you buy and sell currency". Are you able to make up your mind whether crypto is "currency" or not? You just contradicted yourself. And where did you read that to come to that conclusion?
Crypto Tax Acadamy... Well "technically" that is not accurate. As I have noticed, you are a CPA... which means that you are a number cruncher trained by the IRS to crunch numbers for "tax returns". On the other hand, I am a legal analyst specializing in U.S. Internal Revenue. The funds the IRS collects pays down the Federal Deficit. Constitutional taxes pays to "keep the country functioning" as you so noted. And each of the 50 State property taxes pays for roads and other public services within each state.
The IRS is also not "in the business of enforcing rules as passed by Congress" as you so noted. They are in the "business" of administrating accountancy for the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve (kind of what you do). The "enforcing rules" as you have stated, are not passed by Congress. Congress only enacts Bills that are signed into administrative law as Statutes at Large and then codified into the U.S. Code (USC) by the Law Revision Counsel in Washington DC. These are merely administrative laws applicable and enforceable within the Federal Areas as defined in the USC only unless defined to be applicable within the interior boundaries of the 50 States of the Union (Article 1 Sec 8 Clause 17). The only way any of the Congressional laws become enforceable within the interior boundaries of the 50 States of the Union, is when a U.S. Government agency has their attorneys write and promulgate their Regulations in the Federal Register citing their Authority from Congress and published in the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) pursuant to the Federal Register Act... as long as the terminology defined either "includes" or "means" the "50 States". But then that still may only apply to a few and not all.
This is how I see it after studying this crypto issue... All cryptocurrencies are in a decentralized system of blockchain, unless it specifically states that it is not. This means the IRS & the U.S. Government have no control over any gains or losses of any cryptocurrencies bought or sold since that would mean that the cryptos would have a central authority to control every crypto move. The U.S. Congress has yet to introduce any bills into Congress or enact any laws to "treat" cryptocurrencies "as property" as the IRS has noted in their unenforceable "position" Notice 2014-21. As a matter of fact, Congress has never defined the term "property" in the Internal Re-venue Code or anywhere in any of the U.S. Codes to include or mean cryptocurrency. Why? Because cryptocurrency is decentralized and they have no authority over cryptocurrencies. And besides, the only U.S. Government agency that has the enforcement authority for the Internal Re-venue Code, according to the required promulgated Regulations of the Federal Register Act citing those sections of the Internal Re-venue Code, are the divisions of the ATF under Title 27 CFR and not Title 26 CFR the IRS. And cryptocurrencies are not listed as alcohol, tobacco products, firearms or explosives the last time I looked and actually read the regulations. That is the conclusion I've come to. Maybe that's why I'm a legal analyst specializing in U.S. Internal Revenue, and you are a CPA number cruncher.
So where did you get your disinformation from?
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Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
How much does your service charge for simple long-term coin hold investors? I fill out the 1040ez every year, so crypto is as complicated as it gets. Is there a cheaper rate for non-day traders?
I know, it's so easy to play bedroom hardass, isn't it? Unfortunately, (((they))) have the guns and slaves to come hunt us down, and take everything we have, including our lives!! Sorry, I will pay my taxes until I generate the quarter million needed to renounce my citizenship, and move to another country.
Yes because Westley Snipes was a high profile Hollywood celebrity that the IRS could use to keep the fleas in the jar. And besides, the guy who helped him, Eddie Kahn, made only one stupid mistake and they got him too.
I thought USA is land of the free...but you have to fill out 2 pages of trades/day for a BOT trading (which is impossible anyways as you don´t know who you traded with anyway)...
As USA is the world leader, I see bleak future for crypto trade...
America is falling apart, and won't be around much longer anyway, so don't worry about it! After the rest of the World takes the Petro dollar, and throws it back in our faces, the country will collapse, and it will be over! Prepare, it's coming soon.
It was clarified that this is specifically NOT how the documentation for trading works. Of course, ya still got to document the shit out of everything but at least it's not actually impossible or banned.
Well you do have to report every single trade but there's software out there that can do that I believe, so it's doable. I mean filing taxes in general is already a huge pain, this is just another thing to add to the pile.
I believe CoinTracker is what you would need.
Crypto Tax Acadamy, so do you use the USDT price on the exchange, or is there another true measure of the USD value on an exchange? I have taken 0 profits, so I thought I would not owe anything, but I have made a couple dozen “trades.” If I owe money, that means selling some coins, which I really did not want to do. Making myself an S Corp really does not appeal to me. I am just a regular guy who invested some money and tripled it.
You mentioned reporting it if the value on the exchange is 10k or more below in another comment. Does that pertain to this scenario in anyway where if I don't have that much equivalent on an exchange it's exempt? Mostly everything I do is in very small amounts. I'm trying to get to the top with some crumbs basically.
If you buy the ETH and roll that over into another coin relatively quickly the capital gain / loss should be quite small though depending on how much the market fluctuates during the time to transfer from Coinbase to another exchange though, correct?
I'm still not really understanding it though because the wallet's don't actually store the coins. They just give you access to your address on he blockchain, which is decentralized and stored all over the world. Idk maybe I'm dumb but can you help me make sense of this?
That doesn't really make sense. Exchanges like Bittrex, Binance, etc are centralized and are based in particular locations. When you "store" crypto's on a TREZOR or other wallet you aren't actually storing them there. They are going into your wallet address on the blockchain which is decentralized and all over the earth. The trezor itself only stores the private keys and gives you access to the blockchain so that you can move funds around.
Waffles on a bit there but I’m not the only one to that here, ba ha ha ha. My question for crow or anybody else in this space: do you think it’s worth it if I get PT/PF for binance a VPS and also pay for the installation set up if it costs me 50% of my portfolio?
This is hard work, watch all your vids, did the udemy course. But this is all a foreign language to me. Working a full time job, wife and kids need time and all my mates give me a roasting all the time because I’m in “that bitcoin scam!” Lol, they’ll be sorry some day when all this hard work pays off.
Anywayz thank you so much for this Interview, it really helped put things in prospective! Answered a ton of heavy questions. This video will probably be your most viewed since it relieves what the cyrpto community was stressed about. BTW did I win anything? :P
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